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Benno
10.12.2009, 16:15
Hallo zusammen,

wie muß das Steuerkabel bei der SS2000-SM aussehen bzw. welche Stecker (6P4C oder 4P4C) muß es haben?

Ich möchte das Kabel nämlich besorgen bevor das gute Stück bei mir ankommt! Ist leider keins bei :flenn: und die Montageanleitung gibt auch nichts her.
Sebi
10.12.2009, 17:26
Laut FedSig ein 4-poliges RJ11 Kabel (also Tel. Kabel mit 4 Adern und beidseitigen western Steckern) :

http://www.fedsig.com/products/installation.php?id=112


Allerdings brauchte ich beim Premium Vision ein gekreuztes RJ11 !
Weiß nicht ob das bei der SS2000 genauso ist...:kratz:
Benno
10.12.2009, 18:11
Laut FedSig ein 4-poliges RJ11 Kabel (also Tel. Kabel mit 4 Adern und beidseitigen western Steckern) :

http://www.fedsig.com/products/installation.php?id=112


Allerdings brauchte ich beim Premium Vision ein gekreuztes RJ11 !
Weiß nicht ob das bei der SS2000 genauso ist...:kratz:

Das mit den 4 Adern steht in der Montageanleitung aber nicht welcher Steckertyp. Sind das die 4er oder 6er (nur die inneren 4 Belegt) Stecker?
Kannst du von denn beiden Kabelende mal ein Foto machen? Am besten eins wo auch die Belegung(Aderfarben) zu sehen ist.
Das die Adern gekreuzt sind ist schonmal gut zu wissen:grinser:

Laut FedSig On-Line Store braucht mann bei der SS2000 dieses:
<TABLE><TBODY><TR><TD class=columnData>Z146863B <TD class=columnData>Cable, RJ11 Telephone Cable, 25' (all models)</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
und beim Premium Vision dises:
<TABLE><TBODY><TR><TD class=columnData>Z146863B <TD class=columnData>Cable, RJ11 Telephone Cable, 25' (all models)</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
sind also die selben.
Sebi
10.12.2009, 18:30
Also die Ader-Farben sieht man auf den Fotos nicht, sorry!

Es muss einfach das ganze Kabel in einem Stecker andersrum drin sein als im Anderen!

Ich habe nur Kabel mit 6-poligem Stecker und 4-adriger Leitung bekommen. Waren allerdings nicht gekreuzt:(... hab dann selber einzelne Stecker dazu gekauft und mir gekreuzte Kabel gebaut ;)

http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/4108/lightbars040.jpg (http://img706.imageshack.us/i/lightbars040.jpg/)
Benno
10.12.2009, 20:49
Also wenn man die Stecker gegeneinander hält muß das so aussehen:

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Die grauen Flächen sollen die Rastnasen darstellen und zeigen nach oben.

Dann kann ich mir ja ein Kabel bauen, nicht das das Gerät da ist und ich kann nicht spielen weil ich kein Kabel hab.

Besten Dank für die Hilfe!!
Sebi
10.12.2009, 21:35
Da haste nen Denkfehler drin! Dreh mal deine beiden Stecker in die gleiche Richtung! Die sind genau gleich, also 1 zu 1 belegt!

So muss es sein:


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</td><td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: rgb(165, 165, 165) rgb(165, 165, 165) rgb(165, 165, 165) rgb(240, 240, 240); border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; background-color: transparent;" class="xl80">X</td><td style="border: medium none rgb(240, 240, 240); background-color: transparent;" class="xl66">
</td><td style="border-style: none none solid solid; border-color: rgb(165, 165, 165) rgb(240, 240, 240) rgb(165, 165, 165) rgb(165, 165, 165); border-width: medium medium 1pt 1pt; background-color: transparent;" class="xl71">X</td><td style="border-style: none solid solid none; border-color: rgb(165, 165, 165) rgb(165, 165, 165) rgb(165, 165, 165) rgb(240, 240, 240); border-width: medium 1pt 1pt medium; background-color: transparent;" class="xl72">
</td><td style="border: medium none rgb(240, 240, 240); background-color: transparent;" class="xl65">
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</td><td style="border: medium none rgb(240, 240, 240); background-color: transparent;" class="xl65">
</td><td style="border: medium none rgb(240, 240, 240); background-color: transparent;" class="xl65">
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</td></tr></tbody></table>
Dann ist der eine Stecker genau andersrum belegt wie der Andere...
Blaulicht
10.12.2009, 23:31
Laut FedSig ein 4-poliges RJ11 Kabel (also Tel. Kabel mit 4 Adern und beidseitigen western Steckern) :

http://www.fedsig.com/products/installation.php?id=112


Allerdings brauchte ich beim Premium Vision ein gekreuztes RJ11 !
Weiß nicht ob das bei der SS2000 genauso ist...:kratz:

Für die Vision ein Cross Over Kabel ????? Meine Visions laufen alle mit normalen RJ 45 Kabel, Kein Crossover. Hab 3 Stück mit Telekom DSL Kabel laufen.

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Für die SS 2000 brauchst du ein normales RJ11 Kabel.
Sebi
10.12.2009, 23:46
Das RJ45 ist ein normales! Das RJ11 nicht...
Blaulicht
11.12.2009, 00:30
Das RJ 11 das ich habe ist auch kein Cross Over, ich schaue aber morgen nochmal nach. Hab auch noch originale hier von FedSig
Sebi
11.12.2009, 11:22
Das RJ 11 das ich habe ist auch kein Cross Over, ich schaue aber morgen nochmal nach. Hab auch noch originale hier von FedSig

Naja, ich hatte mir auch schon Kabel besorgt bevor ich die Steuerung hatte. Ich hatte 1 neues RJ45 (Netzwerkkabel) das problemlos funktionierte und 3! neue RJ11 Kabel von denen kein einziges ging. Ich kam dann auf die Idee dass es ja eben auch gekreuzte gibt und habe eines wie oben beschrieben umgebaut... und dann ging alles...
Benno
11.12.2009, 12:33
Jetzt bin ich ein wenig verwirrt!

Ein Netzwerkkabel (Patchkabel) hätte ich da, allerdings ist die Belegung der Stecker 1:1. Also:
SteckerA Pin 1 auf SteckerB Pin1
SteckerA Pin 2 auf SteckerB Pin2
usw.

Wiso funktioniert das Netzwerkkabel (Belegung 1:1) und ein RJ11 Kabel muß "gedreht" werden?

Hatte eigentlich auch nicht gedacht das der RJ45 auch in die Buchse passt für die "ab Werk" ein RJ11 vorgesehen ist! :kratz:
Sebi
11.12.2009, 13:11
Nein, das RJ45 passt nicht in die Buchsen vom RJ11!

Das Netzwerkkabel (RJ45) braucht man für die Vision lightbar. Als Verbindung zwischen der control box und der lightbar. (Das war jetzt so ne "Zwischenunterhaltung von Marcel und mir:D)

Das RJ11 braucht man dann als Verbindung zwischen control box und Bedienteil (wie bei der SmartSiren)
Benno
11.12.2009, 14:13
Nein, das RJ45 passt nicht in die Buchsen vom RJ11!

(Das war jetzt so ne "Zwischenunterhaltung von Marcel und mir:D)

Das RJ11 braucht man dann als Verbindung zwischen control box und Bedienteil (wie bei der SmartSiren)

Achso!

Jetzt hab ich den Salat. Die Smart Siren ist vorhin angekommen und ich hab kein Kabel :wand:
Sebi
11.12.2009, 14:30
Fahr doch schnell in nen Telekom Laden! Falls die Keines haben können sie dir schnell eines machen...
Benno
11.12.2009, 16:56
War gerade beim ortansässigen Radio und Fernseh Dealer meines vertrauens und hab ein Kabel bauen lassen und werde jetzt umgehend einen ausgiebiegen Funktionstest durchführen. :D
Benno
11.12.2009, 18:25
So muss es sein:


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</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: rgb(165,165,165) 0.5pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(165,165,165) 1pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: rgb(165,165,165) 1pt solid; BORDER-RIGHT: rgb(240,240,240)" class=xl75>


</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: rgb(165,165,165) 0.5pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(240,240,240); BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: rgb(165,165,165) 1pt solid; BORDER-RIGHT: rgb(165,165,165) 1pt solid" class=xl76>X</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: rgb(240,240,240); BORDER-LEFT: rgb(240,240,240); BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: rgb(240,240,240); BORDER-RIGHT: rgb(240,240,240)" class=xl66>


</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: rgb(165,165,165) 0.5pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(165,165,165) 1pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: rgb(165,165,165) 1pt solid; BORDER-RIGHT: rgb(240,240,240)" class=xl67>X</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: rgb(165,165,165) 0.5pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(240,240,240); BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: rgb(165,165,165) 1pt solid; BORDER-RIGHT: rgb(165,165,165) 1pt solid" class=xl68>


</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: rgb(240,240,240); BORDER-LEFT: rgb(240,240,240); BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: rgb(240,240,240); BORDER-RIGHT: rgb(240,240,240)" class=xl65>


</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15pt" height=20><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: rgb(240,240,240); BORDER-LEFT: rgb(240,240,240); BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; HEIGHT: 15pt; BORDER-TOP: rgb(240,240,240); BORDER-RIGHT: rgb(240,240,240)" class=xl65 height=20>


</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: rgb(165,165,165) 0.5pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(165,165,165) 1pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: rgb(165,165,165); BORDER-RIGHT: rgb(240,240,240)" class=xl77>


</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: rgb(165,165,165) 0.5pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(240,240,240); BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: rgb(165,165,165); BORDER-RIGHT: rgb(165,165,165) 1pt solid" class=xl78>Pin1/Draht1


</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: rgb(240,240,240); BORDER-LEFT: rgb(240,240,240); BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: rgb(240,240,240); BORDER-RIGHT: rgb(240,240,240)" class=xl66>------


</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: rgb(165,165,165) 0.5pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(165,165,165) 1pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: rgb(165,165,165); BORDER-RIGHT: rgb(240,240,240)" class=xl69>Pin4/Draht1


</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: rgb(165,165,165) 0.5pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(240,240,240); BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: rgb(165,165,165); BORDER-RIGHT: rgb(165,165,165) 1pt solid" class=xl70>


</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: rgb(240,240,240); BORDER-LEFT: rgb(240,240,240); BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: rgb(240,240,240); BORDER-RIGHT: rgb(240,240,240)" class=xl65>


</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15pt" height=20><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: rgb(240,240,240); BORDER-LEFT: rgb(240,240,240); BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; HEIGHT: 15pt; BORDER-TOP: rgb(240,240,240); BORDER-RIGHT: rgb(240,240,240)" class=xl65 height=20>


</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: rgb(240,240,240); BORDER-LEFT: rgb(165,165,165) 1pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(191,191,191); BORDER-TOP: rgb(165,165,165); BORDER-RIGHT: rgb(240,240,240)" class=xl81>


</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: rgb(165,165,165) 0.5pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(240,240,240); BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: rgb(165,165,165); BORDER-RIGHT: rgb(165,165,165) 1pt solid" class=xl78>Pin2/Draht2


</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: rgb(240,240,240); BORDER-LEFT: rgb(240,240,240); BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: rgb(240,240,240); BORDER-RIGHT: rgb(240,240,240)" class=xl66>------


</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: rgb(165,165,165) 0.5pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(165,165,165) 1pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: rgb(165,165,165); BORDER-RIGHT: rgb(240,240,240)" class=xl69>Pin3/Draht2


</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: rgb(240,240,240); BORDER-LEFT: rgb(240,240,240); BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(191,191,191); BORDER-TOP: rgb(165,165,165); BORDER-RIGHT: rgb(165,165,165) 1pt solid" class=xl73>


</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: rgb(240,240,240); BORDER-LEFT: rgb(240,240,240); BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: rgb(240,240,240); BORDER-RIGHT: rgb(240,240,240)" class=xl65>


</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15pt" height=20><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: rgb(240,240,240); BORDER-LEFT: rgb(240,240,240); BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; HEIGHT: 15pt; BORDER-TOP: rgb(240,240,240); BORDER-RIGHT: rgb(240,240,240)" class=xl65 height=20>


</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: rgb(165,165,165) 0.5pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(165,165,165) 1pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(191,191,191); BORDER-TOP: rgb(240,240,240); BORDER-RIGHT: rgb(240,240,240)" class=xl82>


</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: rgb(165,165,165) 0.5pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(240,240,240); BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: rgb(165,165,165); BORDER-RIGHT: rgb(165,165,165) 1pt solid" class=xl78>Pin3/Draht3


</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: rgb(240,240,240); BORDER-LEFT: rgb(240,240,240); BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: rgb(240,240,240); BORDER-RIGHT: rgb(240,240,240)" class=xl66>------


</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: rgb(165,165,165) 0.5pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(165,165,165) 1pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: rgb(165,165,165); BORDER-RIGHT: rgb(240,240,240)" class=xl69>Pin2/Draht3


</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: rgb(165,165,165) 0.5pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(240,240,240); BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(191,191,191); BORDER-TOP: rgb(240,240,240); BORDER-RIGHT: rgb(165,165,165) 1pt solid" class=xl74>


</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: rgb(240,240,240); BORDER-LEFT: rgb(240,240,240); BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: rgb(240,240,240); BORDER-RIGHT: rgb(240,240,240)" class=xl65>


</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15pt" height=20><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: rgb(240,240,240); BORDER-LEFT: rgb(240,240,240); BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; HEIGHT: 15pt; BORDER-TOP: rgb(240,240,240); BORDER-RIGHT: rgb(240,240,240)" class=xl65 height=20>


</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: rgb(165,165,165) 0.5pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(165,165,165) 1pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: rgb(165,165,165); BORDER-RIGHT: rgb(240,240,240)" class=xl77>


</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: rgb(165,165,165) 0.5pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(240,240,240); BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: rgb(165,165,165); BORDER-RIGHT: rgb(165,165,165) 1pt solid" class=xl78>Pin4/Draht4


</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: rgb(240,240,240); BORDER-LEFT: rgb(240,240,240); BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: rgb(240,240,240); BORDER-RIGHT: rgb(240,240,240)" class=xl66>------


</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: rgb(165,165,165) 0.5pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(165,165,165) 1pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: rgb(165,165,165); BORDER-RIGHT: rgb(240,240,240)" class=xl69>Pin1/Draht4


</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: rgb(165,165,165) 0.5pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(240,240,240); BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: rgb(165,165,165); BORDER-RIGHT: rgb(165,165,165) 1pt solid" class=xl70>


</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: rgb(240,240,240); BORDER-LEFT: rgb(240,240,240); BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: rgb(240,240,240); BORDER-RIGHT: rgb(240,240,240)" class=xl65>


</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15.75pt" height=21><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: rgb(240,240,240); BORDER-LEFT: rgb(240,240,240); BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; HEIGHT: 15.75pt; BORDER-TOP: rgb(240,240,240); BORDER-RIGHT: rgb(240,240,240)" class=xl65 height=21>


</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: rgb(165,165,165) 1pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(165,165,165) 1pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: rgb(165,165,165); BORDER-RIGHT: rgb(240,240,240)" class=xl79>


</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: rgb(165,165,165) 1pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(240,240,240); BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: rgb(165,165,165); BORDER-RIGHT: rgb(165,165,165) 1pt solid" class=xl80>X</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: rgb(240,240,240); BORDER-LEFT: rgb(240,240,240); BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: rgb(240,240,240); BORDER-RIGHT: rgb(240,240,240)" class=xl66>


</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: rgb(165,165,165) 1pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(165,165,165) 1pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: rgb(165,165,165); BORDER-RIGHT: rgb(240,240,240)" class=xl71>X</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: rgb(165,165,165) 1pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(240,240,240); BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: rgb(165,165,165); BORDER-RIGHT: rgb(165,165,165) 1pt solid" class=xl72>


</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: rgb(240,240,240); BORDER-LEFT: rgb(240,240,240); BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: rgb(240,240,240); BORDER-RIGHT: rgb(240,240,240)" class=xl65>


</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15pt" height=20><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: rgb(240,240,240); BORDER-LEFT: rgb(240,240,240); BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; HEIGHT: 15pt; BORDER-TOP: rgb(240,240,240); BORDER-RIGHT: rgb(240,240,240)" class=xl65 height=20>


</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: rgb(240,240,240); BORDER-LEFT: rgb(240,240,240); BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: rgb(240,240,240); BORDER-RIGHT: rgb(240,240,240)" class=xl65>


</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: rgb(240,240,240); BORDER-LEFT: rgb(240,240,240); BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: rgb(240,240,240); BORDER-RIGHT: rgb(240,240,240)" class=xl65>


</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: rgb(240,240,240); BORDER-LEFT: rgb(240,240,240); BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: rgb(240,240,240); BORDER-RIGHT: rgb(240,240,240)" class=xl65>


</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: rgb(240,240,240); BORDER-LEFT: rgb(240,240,240); BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: rgb(240,240,240); BORDER-RIGHT: rgb(240,240,240)" class=xl65>


</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: rgb(240,240,240); BORDER-LEFT: rgb(240,240,240); BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: rgb(240,240,240); BORDER-RIGHT: rgb(240,240,240)" class=xl65>


</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: rgb(240,240,240); BORDER-LEFT: rgb(240,240,240); BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; BORDER-TOP: rgb(240,240,240); BORDER-RIGHT: rgb(240,240,240)" class=xl65>


</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>



Funktioniert!! :banane:
Sebi
11.12.2009, 18:41
Super!! :jippi: